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23:19
samwichconlimonmaybe. who is running agility on their max speed regieleki?
KetsubanXDAdmittedly, I doubt there's many situations where you could actually set it up
DrexTructionI think it realistically happened once ever
samwichconlimonniche, not really useful. requires a lot of set up
23:18
DrexTructionso if you manage to go beyond 1809, it'll overflow and make you fast again
DrexTructioncause the way trick room works is that it makes every pokemon's speed 1809 - their actual speed
Paperboy012305Oh my!
samwichconlimonall the speed. even regieleki needs agility boosts to reach it
23:17
DrexTructionas long as it can reach over 1809 speed it will work
Paperboy012305What's the preferred speed required to outspeed trick room?
KetsubanXDI was only aware of Regileki being so fast it breaks through Trick Room
samwichconlimonas long as the speed stat is heigh enough
Paperboy012305Wow, I didn't know weather speed doubling abilities do it too.
23:16
samwichconlimonfrankly, just enough speed in regileki's case
DrexTructionanything with good enough speed and a weather speed doubling ability, really
samwichconlimonfloatzel
samwichconlimonno, some other mons can with proper boosts
DrexTructionsand rush exacdrill can also do that
23:15
KetsubanXDIs Regileki the only mon capable of outspeeding Trick Room or has that been changed?
samwichconlimonthey still are, just without the armarouge most of the time.
Paperboy012305Why do you think Fuzzy removed Stored Power on the Flittle line in Pokengine?
DrexTructionindeedee armarouge teams were everywhere
DrexTructionand it dominated the meta for a while
23:14
samwichconlimonbruh, until dlc2, armarouge was the only thing with expanding force
Paperboy012305Calm Mind, Speed Boost, 252 in HP and Defense with Bold Nature and it's a tanky nuke.
MIX_Of_EEVEEzzzzzzzz
samwichconlimonnot always. espathra has almost never been used in vgc
DrexTructionuse the charcadet evolution for that
samwichconlimonthe ostrich has speed boost stored power
DrexTructionwhy would you want a pokemon with speed boost in trick room
KetsubanXDThen yeah that is very niche
23:13
samwichconlimonExpanding force on psychic terrian, usually with trick room
DrexTructionbasically the ostrich has a psychich type acid spray with more BP
Paperboy012305What even is psyspam?
Paperboy012305That Psychic Ostrich is Psychic's only form of power of what it once was.
DrexTructioncause "before" was when psychic was absolutely busted
Golexus20where does beedrill fall in there?
samwichconlimonespathra was banned so fast, and psyspam is still relavent in doubles
IcymossCounter Counterpoint: :gun:
DrexTructionand as I always say, psychic will always look worse than before
23:12
DrexTructionvery niche
samwichconlimoncounterpoint: psyspam or espathra
Paperboy012305I was about to say that Psychic has seen some better days.
Icymossbug is great, psychic is DEAD :D
DrexTructionit's been a while since it's been a bad type
23:11
DrexTructionidk, bug can be called mediocre at worst
23:09
Paperboy012305Yes, ground's a pretty common type.
DrexTructionwhile bug resists ground, fighting and grass
Paperboy012305It's got bug bite, it's fine.
samwichconlimon"make u-turn 60 BP" said every scizor ever
23:08
DrexTructionweak to rock, flying and fire
Paperboy012305It never was.
KetsubanXDWill have to say that bug's offensively okay, it's just not great defensively
Paperboy012305Not really.
DrexTructiondo you know what download U-Turn was back in the day
DrexTructiongenesect was a monster
Paperboy012305Scizor, Volcarona, not sure about Genesect but probably and Lokix.
23:07
DrexTructionbug types have been quite strong since gen 5
Paperboy012305There's really only a few winners here and there.
samwichconlimonnormal is okay
Ploutof*bad
Paperboy012305Plus the amount of bug types are too weak stat wise.
Ploutofwell, bug, ice and normal are nad typing
DrexTructionbug also resists quite a bunch of types itself
23:06
Paperboy012305Bug is resisted by too many types and falls victim to stealth rock.
samwichconlimontera bug roaring moon/heatran
Droncarnah it's fine
DrexTructionis bug that bad of a typing?
23:05
Droncarstill disagrees
Paperboy012305Only because it has Tinted Lens.
DroncarBug tera first impression lokix disagrees
23:04
Paperboy012305Bug isn't that good of a typing tho.
DrexTructiontroll, look around for clues
DrexTructionyou'd need a pokemon slower than 72 base speed tho
TrollhunterHow do u get to the crypt
samwichconlimonthat being said, priority move doesn't deal with the focus sash. if it can quiverdance and get stats copied over before dying, it works
23:03
DrexTructionso we can ignore that argument for now
DrexTructionwell, we don't have stealth rock yet
Ploutoftake half damage from stealt rock
TrollhunterHow do u get to the crypt
Paperboy012305Counter counter counterpoint: Sandstorm
samwichconlimonscratch that, flying type
23:02
samwichconlimoncountercountercounterpoint: psychic terrain
Paperboy012305Counter counterpoint: Priority move.
samwichconlimoncounterpoint: focus sash
DrexTructionit's inside the crypt
23:01
samwichconlimonit doesn't get baton pass, unfortunately
Trollhunterwhere is the grim vale reaper's tomb? Like specific instructions from where u start of or just the general direction.
DrexTructioncounter counterpoint: 46 base HP
samwichconlimoncounterpoint: psych up
DrexTructionthat thing dies to a STAB quick attack
Paperboy012305Sounds good on paper, until you look at its stats, typing, moveset and realize Volcorona can do it 10x better.
23:00
DrexTructionyes, xerneas with 370 BST
Icymossoui
samwichconlimonyo, the butterfly with HA gets simple quiver dance. xerneas moment
Whopper223since i am portugues
DrexTructionI think it's latin
Whopper223yay i got portugeus
22:59
Paperboy012305The one in english is the one for your team.
DrexTructiondepending on the team you picked